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- @4WaysUnited I'm on Debian and I haven't noticed any issues. Can you send us a log file?
https://manual.openlp.org/troubleshooting.html#i-have-been-asked-to-email-a-debug-log-where-do-i-find-this - Ugh. I just tried it now, and saw nothing in the log file. Added some extra stuff to the code and it looks like SongSelect has changed their web site again.
- Meh. They've changed things slightly. Since you're on Ubuntu, you can fix it yourself though. This is not fixable on Windows or macOS. ONLY LINUX.
You'll need to usesudoto edit the following file:
On line 50 you should see this:
Change that to say:
Now you should be able to log in to SongSelect. - Thank you so much Raoul,
So grateful to the Lord Jesus for you man, thank you for your hard work and this great product. Especially grateful for your quick response, in time for Sunday!
Have to love open source and Linux in general.
God bless, - Raoul,
I am now experiencing the CCLI log-in problem; cannot access 'songselect.ccli.com' from OpenLP 2.4.4 and import songs. Was able to access CCLI through OpenLP on Thursday February 23, 2017 and import songs then on Friday could not access CCLI. OpenLP is installed on a Windows computer, and has worked quite well until now.. how can this be fixed? Attached is the 'openlp.log' file taken Saturday after the error occurred, which might help. Need to be able to import songs from CCLI, and need this problem fixed as soon as possible, thanks for any solutions.
Felix - @FelixKat, the CCLI USR and TXT file importer (File -> Import -> Song, CCLI/SongSelect) still works, so while we are looking at getting OpenLP to take CCLI's changes into effect, you can still import from SongSelect via the Song importer. Also, please upgrade to 2.4.5 and read this blog post (if you haven't already): https://openlp.org/blog/2017/02/20/windows-and-ssl
- Raoul,
Thanks for the response.. but I'm sorry to inform you that the CCLI USR and TXT file importer (File -> Import -> Song, CCLI/SongSelect) from OpenLP did not work on my machine. Tried upgrading to 2.4.5 and my Norton anti virus program blocked the upgrade because openlp.exe contained threat Trojan.Gen.8 so now I no longer have OpenLP on my machine! Any further recommendations?
Felix - Raoul,
Have been able to re-load OpenLP 2.4.4 on my machine, but the song importer still does not let me log into my CCLI account.
Felix - @FelixKat You are aware that there's the SongSelect importer and then a separate CCLI format in the Song importer? If the CCLI format importer did not work, what is the error message? Do you have a log file for me?
https://manual.openlp.org/troubleshooting.html#i-have-been-asked-to-email-a-debug-log-where-do-i-find-this
Also, did you read the above posts where we said that the SongSelect website has changed, and that means that OpenLP has to change? - Raoul.
Again, thanks for your prompt reply.. First, I want to apologize, I didn't realize that you were pointing me to a separate CCLI format in the song importer, which you are correct, it works. I have read the other posts that indicate the SongSelect website has changed, and I am including the log file you requested, maybe it will help track down the log-in problem. Hopefully it will help change OpenLP so this feature can be used again. As far as upgrading OpenLP to the latest version; 2.4.5 I'm sure that will be possible. On several attempts to install the latest, my Norton anti virus program blocked the upgrade because openlp.exe contained threat Trojan.Gen.8 that is why the debug log will indicate that I'm not running the latest version.
Felix - @FelixKat That's not a problem, it's confusing at the best of times. As far as I can see, I have found a solution to the bug that you are experiencing, but this will obviously be another release of OpenLP. Hopefully the CCLI format importer will work for the time being.
- Raoul,
Thanks for your response, and I'll look forward to the future release of OpenLP.
Keep up the great work, Felix - Im looking forward too. When do you think the new release will be ready. Can I make some changes in the files as 'songselect.py' until the new release comes? The CCLI-Songselect Importassistent was a very helpful thing. I am very sad, that is out of order, just when I had installed OpenIP the first time.
- edited March 2017@Holbi please be aware, that is a test build of the next version of OpenLP, it's not meant for production use. It may produce incompatibilities in your database. It was not even built on a Windows computer, it was built in WINE on Linux and there may be bugs!
- edited March 2017That is ok, I have 2 Versions of OpenLP and can load the songs with bzr2728 and show with OpenLP Portable 2.45
- edited August 2018Seems its not working again. Im using a free account, but that should not stop the login from working?:BASE_URL = 'https://songselect.ccli.com'
LOGIN_PAGE = 'https://profile.ccli.com/account/signin?appContext=SongSelect&returnUrl='
'https%3a%2f%2fsongselect.ccli.com%2f'
#LOGIN_URL = 'https://profile.ccli.com'
LOGIN_URL = 'https://profile.ccli.com/account/signin'
LOGOUT_URL = BASE_URL + '/account/logout'
SEARCH_URL = BASE_URL + '/search/results'Debug:2018-08-06 18:19:59,670 openlp.plugins.songs.lib.songselect ERROR Could not login to SongSelect, HTTP Error 404: Not Found
Traceback (most recent call last):
File '/usr/share/openlp/openlp/plugins/songs/lib/songselect.py', line 111, in login
posted_page = BeautifulSoup(self.opener.open(login_url, data.encode('utf-8')).read(), 'lxml')
File '/usr/lib/python3.5/urllib/request.py', line 472, in open
response = meth(req, response)
File '/usr/lib/python3.5/urllib/request.py', line 582, in http_response
'http', request, response, code, msg, hdrs)
File '/usr/lib/python3.5/urllib/request.py', line 510, in error
return self._call_chain(*args)
File '/usr/lib/python3.5/urllib/request.py', line 444, in _call_chain
result = func(*args)
File '/usr/lib/python3.5/urllib/request.py', line 590, in http_error_default
raise HTTPError(req.full_url, code, msg, hdrs, fp)
urllib.error.HTTPError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
2018-08-06 18:20:02,030 openlp.core.OpenLP DEBUG Entering process_events
2018-08-06 18:20:04,522 openlp.plugins.songs.forms.songselectform DEBUG Closing SongSelectForm - edited August 2018LOGIN_URL = 'https://profile.ccli.com/account/signin' needs to go back to LOGIN_URL = 'https://profile.ccli.com'as it parses to LOGIN_URL = 'https://profile.ccli.com/account/signin/account/signin' (there is an conditional further down which adds the addtional /account/signin)However, that does not fix the issue I feel that ccli.com have put a block with their associate account option, but without debug stepping mode not working here I cant be sure.
- Hi, I had the problem, that after a first successful attempt to login to CCLI no other login was possible after the first session was closed.
I am on Windows 10 and tried the above solution under C:Program Files (x86)OpenLPpluginssongslibsongselect.py and it now works perfectly. I can re-login after the session to CCLI was terminated.
Maybe this hint might help other users of OpenLP 2.4.6 on Windows 10. - Blessed day
I'm having the same problem, I'm on Windows 10, OpenLP 2.4.6, free acount of CCLI.
I already try to change LOGIN_URL = 'https://profile.ccli.com/account/signin' and LOGIN_URL = 'https://profile.ccli.com', it doesn't work.
Please help me.
God Bless. - OpenLP current can't handle free accounts on SongSelect (it doesn't know they exist, so it expects all songs to be available). OpenLP 3.0 has a fix for this.
It can be tough to decide which presentation software is right for your church, so I’ve put together a list of all the best options on the market today.
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You’ll see what each option costs, what it does best, and what platforms it’s designed to run on. There are even two completely free church presentation software options on the list.
This guide should help you pick the presentation software that’s best-suited to meet your church’s needs.
MediaShout 6
Platforms: Mac and PC
Pricing model: purchase outright (as opposed to a subscription)
Cost: $399
What sets MediaShout 6 apart?
There’s a reason MediaShout 6 is at the top of my list; not only is it affordable, but there are a lot of positive factors that make it a good choice.
Customer support. One of things that sets MediaShout apart most is its 7-day-a-week customer service. No other church presentation software offers such a high degree of support for its users.
Free content included. A MediaShout license comes with more than 2,500 songs with ready-to-go lyrics, and 67 free Bibles. That’s a lot more starter content than other available options.
Multi-screen functionality. While most other options either don’t support multi-screen functionality or require you to spend extra to get it, MediaShout 6 comes with it built in.
Hardware options. The MediaShout team has collaborated with Dell to build a variety of hardware bundles designed with churches in mind.
Built with PowerPoint in mind. Since a lot of churches “graduate” to church presentation software from PowerPoint, it’s great to have an interface that helps PowerPoint users along. MediaShout does just that: the interface is built to be especially easy to understand if you’re used to PowerPoint.
ProPresenter 6
Platforms: Mac and PC
Pricing model: purchase outright, add modules for additional cost
Cost: $399+
What sets ProPresenter 6 apart?
ProPresenter is one of the most widely-used softwares for church presentations. In addition to being popular, there are a few things that make it unique:
Modules. You can purchase additional hardware modules that give the software additional functionality. For example, you can buy a module that lets you present on multiple screens.
Bibles. It doesn’t include quite as many as MediaShout 6, but with 46 free Bibles, you’re still getting a great number of options.
Mobile apps. ProPresenter 6 has several mobile apps different team members can download. These come in handy for controlling the presentation on Sunday morning.
Proclaim
Platforms: Mac and PC
Pricing model: subscription
Cost: $19.95 monthly at the low end, $79.89 monthly at the high end
What sets Proclaim apart?
One of the most unique factors of Proclaim is that it’s made by Faithlife, the creators of Logos Bible Software. The two products are integrated, so that’s a nice benefit for Logos users. In addition to that …
Cloud-enabled. Proclaim allows teams to collaborate on presentations with their cloud feature.
Mobile apps. Like ProPresenter, Proclaim also features mobile apps that can be used to control presentations like a remote control. It also allows presenters to send updates to congregation members who use other Logos apps on their phones.
Pastoral focus. Proclaim was built to give pastors more control over building their presentations from their sermons.
EasyWorship 6
Platforms: PC only
Pricing model: purchase outright
Cost: $499
What sets EasyWorship 6 apart?
Though EasyWorship is only available for Windows, that’s actually part of what makes it special. It’s specifically made for people who have been using PowerPoint.
So if you’re a PowerPoint user, consider this:
Similar layout. If you know how to use PowerPoint, you’ve got a leg up already in figuring out EasyWorship 6.
Works with PowerPoint files. You can import your previously-created PowerPoint presentations into EasyWorship instead of starting from scratch.
In addition to the PowerPoint integration, EasyWorship also integrates with QuickTime so you can play video content in your presentations.
MediaShout Bridge
Platforms: PC (you also need PowerPoint 2007, 2010, or 2013)
Pricing model: purchase outright
Cost: $99
What sets MediaShout Bridge apart?
MediaShout Bridge is a simpler presentation software option for churches who are using PowerPoint and might not be ready to transition to a new software solution.
Upgrades PowerPoint. This plugin works within an existing installation of PowerPoint, and turns it into a tool specifically for churches.
Includes a Lyric library. Bridge gives PowerPoint users a huge arsenal of public domain songs and hymns to use in their presentations.
Includes Bibles. A lot of Bibles—67 versions, to be precise.
ShareFaith Presenter
Platforms: Only for Windows 10 (must also have Office 365)
Pricing model: part of a subscription to ShareFaith Complete
Cost: $71/month (includes more than presentation software)
What sets ShareFaith Presenter apart?
In some ways, ShareFaith Presenter is similar to MediaShout Bridge. It’s a plugin that works with PowerPoint to connect it with other ShareFaith tools.
It’s quite limited on operating system, so make sure you have Windows 10 and Office 365 before pursuing this option.
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If your church uses ShareFaith, and you use the newest version PowerPoint, this is a good solution.
Free church presentation software
Among the top options for church presentation software are two that are entirely free: OpenLP and OpenSong. Learn more about the differences between the two free options below.
OpenLP
Platforms: Linux, PC, and Mac
Pricing model: freeware
Cost: none
What sets OpenLP apart?
Aside from the obvious (that it’s totally free), OpenLP does some cool stuff:
Gives you basic presentation functionality. You can create slides with text formatting, images, and various effects.
Remote control. OpenLP even has a remote control feature, so you can navigate through the presentation from any networked device.
Video. You can display and play video files in your presentations—which is pretty cool for an open source program!
Friendly with PowerPoint. You can import PowerPoint presentations into OpenLP.
If you’re not ready to spend money on a presentation tool designed for churches, you can at least start playing around with OpenLP.
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OpenSong
Platforms: Linux, PC, and Mac
Pricing model: freeware
Cost: none
What sets OpenSong apart
OpenSong and OpenLP share some commonalities, but OpenSong seems to have been created more with musicians in mind rather than pastors and tech teams. It allows for basic presentation functionality, plus a few other cool things:
Chord chart manipulation. OpenSong lets you play around with chord charts. For example, you can automatically transpose chords to any key—a helpful tool for music teams.
Timed slide loops. Teams can create sets of slides that loop at a predetermined pace.
Since it’s free, there’s no harm in downloading a version to see if it can work for you.
What’s your recommended presentation software?
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Has your church found a presentation software your team loves? Let me know in the comments! By the way, if you liked this post, you might also appreciate this directory of free motion backgrounds.
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